http://www.torahtruth.org/2008/10/bareishit-creation-the-scientific-approach/ The Uncompromising Torah Truth Website. Thu, 22 Sep 2011 15:00:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 http://www.torahtruth.org/2008/10/bareishit-creation-the-scientific-approach/comment-page-1/#comment-887 Ben Thu, 28 Oct 2010 15:50:55 +0000 http://www.torahtruth.org/?p=369#comment-887 First I’ll answer using only minimum knowledge of modern physics. The laws of physics apply to the nature around us as we observe it in the present moment. These laws are true and verifiable over our limited time of human existence narrowed down even more by the history of science. But ask yourself this question: do they apply to the … “nature” before the Big Bang? You probably realize that question is even not valid because … what “nature” are you talking about? That “nature” which we observe, which we are part of and which we research in science did not exist before Big Bang, no laws of thermodynamics, not even energy, there was no object to be observed, neither subject to do observation … your question about 1st law of thermodynamics cannot be even applied “there” as there is nothing there yet not even energy in any form (scripture’s wording says “tohu v’avohu” which is translated as “unformed and void”)… In fact even Einstein’s relativity theory cannot be applied as there are no object or subjects. What was before the Big Bang? You can run your imagination to it’s limits but you will not come up with anything better than: “the earth was not formed and void” (Genesis, 1:2) Only after the moment of Big Bang we may encounter any form of energy, the first form we know is the photon (or light), as in “And God said: ‘Let there be light.’ And there was light.” (Genesis, 1:3) All other forms of matter such as water or solids (“firmament” as usually translated in Genesis) are all different forms of energy as discovered by modern physics. Another approach to the scientific understanding of what was before Big Bang comes from quantum mechanics who use the theory of “Zero Point Field” to explain that dimension of our current reality where laws of physics can not be applied. This theory was developed by quantum field physicists trying to explain the phenomena in our world when unstable particles and other forms of energy appear and disappear apparently from and to … nothingness . The other term for this is a “vacuum state” or as a state containing “zero energy”. This “nothingness”, from where particles pop into and out of existence (read wikipedia about this theory), called "zero energy" or a "vacuum state", - is kind of “scientific” term … for the Creator :=) First I’ll answer using only minimum knowledge of modern physics.
The laws of physics apply to the nature around us as we observe it in the present moment. These laws are true and verifiable over our limited time of human existence narrowed down even more by the history of science. But ask yourself this question: do they apply to the … “nature” before the Big Bang?
You probably realize that question is even not valid because … what “nature” are you talking about? That “nature” which we observe, which we are part of and which we research in science did not exist before Big Bang, no laws of thermodynamics, not even energy, there was no object to be observed, neither subject to do observation … your question about 1st law of thermodynamics cannot be even applied “there” as there is nothing there yet not even energy in any form (scripture’s wording says “tohu v’avohu” which is translated as “unformed and void”)… In fact even Einstein’s relativity theory cannot be applied as there are no object or subjects. What was before the Big Bang? You can run your imagination to it’s limits but you will not come up with anything better than:
“the earth was not formed and void” (Genesis, 1:2)
Only after the moment of Big Bang we may encounter any form of energy, the first form we know is the photon (or light), as in
“And God said: ‘Let there be light.’ And there was light.” (Genesis, 1:3)
All other forms of matter such as water or solids (“firmament” as usually translated in Genesis) are all different forms of energy as discovered by modern physics.
Another approach to the scientific understanding of what was before Big Bang comes from quantum mechanics who use the theory of “Zero Point Field” to explain that dimension of our current reality where laws of physics can not be applied. This theory was developed by quantum field physicists trying to explain the phenomena in our world when unstable particles and other forms of energy appear and disappear apparently from and to … nothingness . The other term for this is a “vacuum state” or as a state containing “zero energy”. This “nothingness”, from where particles pop into and out of existence (read wikipedia about this theory), called “zero energy” or a “vacuum state”, – is kind of “scientific” term … for the Creator :=)

]]> http://www.torahtruth.org/2008/10/bareishit-creation-the-scientific-approach/comment-page-1/#comment-885 Jake Thu, 28 Oct 2010 04:00:02 +0000 http://www.torahtruth.org/?p=369#comment-885 If the first law of thermodynamics states that energy can niether be created nor destroyed. How does it support the idea behind there being a God? If the first law of thermodynamics states that energy can niether be created nor destroyed. How does it support the idea behind there being a God?

]]> http://www.torahtruth.org/2008/10/bareishit-creation-the-scientific-approach/comment-page-1/#comment-10 Bareishit: What Is A Day Of Creation? | Torah Truth Sat, 25 Oct 2008 20:42:43 +0000 http://www.torahtruth.org/?p=369#comment-10 [...] Bareishit: Creation - The Scientific approach. [...] [...] Bareishit: Creation – The Scientific approach. [...]

]]>