Comments for Torah Truth http://www.torahtruth.org The Uncompromising Torah Truth Website. Thu, 22 Sep 2011 15:00:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 Comment on Torah Morals: Fixing A Widespread Confusion by Meyer Vaisman http://www.torahtruth.org/2009/09/torah-morals-fixing-a-widespread-confusion/comment-page-1/#comment-1233 Meyer Vaisman Thu, 22 Sep 2011 15:00:58 +0000 http://www.torahtruth.org/?p=747#comment-1233 It´s worth noting that the Hypocratic Oath is made to Apolo - a pagan deity. It´s worth noting that the Hypocratic Oath is made to Apolo – a pagan deity.

]]> Comment on Meditation Quotes from King David by Ben http://www.torahtruth.org/2009/02/meditation-quotes-from-king-david/comment-page-1/#comment-1219 Ben Sun, 21 Aug 2011 02:16:55 +0000 http://www.torahtruth.org/?p=469#comment-1219 This is another reply to RCohen: Previously I left out my reply to your Kaballah statement. Again, similarly to your original question "why do we need to research so many other religions/sources", looks like here too you just stick with one source again, even within your religion : your version of Judaism. Regarding your statement that Kaballah is most recently accessible in English through Chassidus, I suggest to check out English translation of the Rabbi Moshe Chaim Luzzatto's books: "The Kabbalah of the Ari Zal", and also, "138 Openings of Wisdom". These books are not Chassidus and, incidentally, you may discover that Chassidus sources dropped quite a lot from the Kabbalah of Luzzatto and Ari Zal ... This is another reply to RCohen:
Previously I left out my reply to your Kaballah statement. Again, similarly to your original question “why do we need to research so many other religions/sources”, looks like here too you just stick with one source again, even within your religion : your version of Judaism.
Regarding your statement that Kaballah is most recently accessible in English through Chassidus, I suggest to check out English translation of the Rabbi Moshe Chaim Luzzatto’s books: “The Kabbalah of the Ari Zal”, and also, “138 Openings of Wisdom”.
These books are not Chassidus and, incidentally, you may discover that Chassidus sources dropped quite a lot from the Kabbalah of Luzzatto and Ari Zal …

]]> Comment on Meditation Quotes from King David by Ben http://www.torahtruth.org/2009/02/meditation-quotes-from-king-david/comment-page-1/#comment-1218 Ben Sun, 21 Aug 2011 01:47:23 +0000 http://www.torahtruth.org/?p=469#comment-1218 RCohen, The best answer to you question comes from Rambam (Maimonides) "Guide for the Perplexed" Book 3 Ch.51 : ... Those who undertake to investigate the principles of religion, have come into the ante-chamber (a metaphor for the "palace" of God) ... but those who have succeeded in finding proof for everything that can be proved, who have a true knowledge of God, so far as a true knowledge can be attained, and are near the truth, wherever an approach to the truth is possible, they have reached the goal and are in the palace in which King lives ... -------------- Why do you believe only to what your Rabbi teaches you? Is it because you happened to be born a Jew? Does this mean that if you were born in Muslim family similarly you would only believe everything what your local imam preaches without verification? This is what Rambam calls intelligence deserving to find God: everything must be proven whatever can be proven to pinpoint the Truth, regardless who we are and regardless what our immediate environment tells us. Only uncompromising seeker deserves to Know The Divine. Ignorance multiplies whenever individual relies on somebody's teaching without seeking his own proof. Here is a test showing you your patterns of thinking: How do you know that "Intellect over emotions" principle did not come from Sanskrit teachings? Did you study Sanskrit sources and their history to arrive at such a conclusion? ...Otherwise ...? Ex.: I believe Torah is God-given Divine source NOT because my Rabbi said so but based on my own investigation and comparison through all major scriptures of the World and also comparing Torah text with my own life experience... Through this hard work/study I deserved to approach the "ante-chamber" of the King... RCohen, The best answer to you question comes from Rambam (Maimonides)
“Guide for the Perplexed” Book 3 Ch.51 :
… Those who undertake to investigate the principles of religion, have come into the ante-chamber (a metaphor for the “palace” of God) … but those who have succeeded in finding proof for everything that can be proved, who have a true knowledge of God, so far as a true knowledge can be attained, and are near the truth, wherever an approach to the truth is possible, they have reached the goal and are in the palace in which King lives …
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Why do you believe only to what your Rabbi teaches you? Is it because you happened to be born a Jew? Does this mean that if you were born in Muslim family similarly you would only believe everything what your local imam preaches without verification?
This is what Rambam calls intelligence deserving to find God: everything must be proven whatever can be proven to pinpoint the Truth, regardless who we are and regardless what our immediate environment tells us.
Only uncompromising seeker deserves to Know The Divine. Ignorance multiplies whenever individual relies on somebody’s teaching without seeking his own proof.

Here is a test showing you your patterns of thinking:
How do you know that “Intellect over emotions” principle did not come from Sanskrit teachings? Did you study Sanskrit sources and their history to arrive at such a conclusion? …Otherwise …?
Ex.: I believe Torah is God-given Divine source NOT because my Rabbi said so but based on my own investigation and comparison through all major scriptures of the World and also comparing Torah text with my own life experience… Through this hard work/study I deserved to approach the “ante-chamber” of the King…

]]> Comment on Meditation Quotes from King David by RCoehn http://www.torahtruth.org/2009/02/meditation-quotes-from-king-david/comment-page-1/#comment-1212 RCoehn Tue, 12 Jul 2011 06:11:15 +0000 http://www.torahtruth.org/?p=469#comment-1212 Why do you have to refer to so many other religions and belief systems when you are saying it is all true from the Torah??? It's all there. Intellect over emotions is not from Sanskrit teachings, it's from the Torah, specifically mysticism - Kaballah which is most recently accessible in English through Chassidus (Chassidic Philosophy). Why do you have to refer to so many other religions and belief systems when you are saying it is all true from the Torah??? It’s all there. Intellect over emotions is not from Sanskrit teachings, it’s from the Torah, specifically mysticism – Kaballah which is most recently accessible in English through Chassidus (Chassidic Philosophy).

]]> Comment on Bareishit: Torah and Science: FAQ’s by Ben http://www.torahtruth.org/2008/10/bareishit-torah-and-science-faqs/comment-page-1/#comment-891 Ben Sat, 01 Jan 2011 00:08:49 +0000 http://www.torahtruth.org/?p=420#comment-891 Your desire to widen your inquiry fulfills the purpose of creating this web site. Thank you for being a seeker! Your desire to widen your inquiry fulfills the purpose of creating this web site.
Thank you for being a seeker!

]]> Comment on Bareishit: Torah and Science: FAQ’s by Ben http://www.torahtruth.org/2008/10/bareishit-torah-and-science-faqs/comment-page-1/#comment-890 Ben Sat, 01 Jan 2011 00:06:44 +0000 http://www.torahtruth.org/?p=420#comment-890 I am glad that some people are getting encouraged by these posts to learn more on the subject. The most important things to remember while learning - never be discouraged by feeling some misunderstanding or not being able to see a complete picture. You are a seeker! This is a way, this is the essence of life - this is it's purpose. At certain level you will start seeing all the separate pieces of knowledge as ... one complete picture were "separateness" does not even exist! You will not need any associations between separate elements of the knowledge because the knowledge in itself is a complete ONENESS! Your mind focus will widen and consciousness will expand to a such degree that you will not even see separateness but ONENESS alone! Adonai Ehad! I am glad that some people are getting encouraged by these posts to learn more on the subject. The most important things to remember while learning – never be discouraged by feeling some misunderstanding or not being able to see a complete picture. You are a seeker! This is a way, this is the essence of life – this is it’s purpose. At certain level you will start seeing all the separate pieces of knowledge as … one complete picture were “separateness” does not even exist! You will not need any associations between separate elements of the knowledge because the knowledge in itself is a complete ONENESS! Your mind focus will widen and consciousness will expand to a such degree that you will not even see separateness but ONENESS alone!
Adonai Ehad!

]]> Comment on Bareishit: Torah and Science: FAQ’s by Shaniqua Spycher http://www.torahtruth.org/2008/10/bareishit-torah-and-science-faqs/comment-page-1/#comment-889 Shaniqua Spycher Sat, 20 Nov 2010 22:34:44 +0000 http://www.torahtruth.org/?p=420#comment-889 Very well said. I never ever considered I would agree with this opinion, but I’m starting to view points from a various view. I have to analysis far more on this as it appears to be very fascinating. 1 thing I don’t fully grasp nevertheless is how every thing is associated together. Very well said. I never ever considered I would agree with this opinion, but I’m starting to view points from a various view. I have to analysis far more on this as it appears to be very fascinating. 1 thing I don’t fully grasp nevertheless is how every thing is associated together.

]]> Comment on Bareishit: What Is A Day Of Creation? by sagiv levi http://www.torahtruth.org/2008/10/bareishit-what-is-a-day-of-creation/comment-page-1/#comment-888 sagiv levi Fri, 29 Oct 2010 04:07:20 +0000 http://www.torahtruth.org/?p=383#comment-888 summerize: one of the hardest thing to understund is the timing in the creation. In the creation Yom is not really mean a day because there was no sun or light in the first three days. another example is when God said and it will evening and it will be morning it is really not like morning and evening like we know it; it is really like the defenition of the word evening which is cheos and morning which is order. the diffrent of science and the torah in this article: this article is mostly based on science like using the defenition of the words evening and morning, or the orgenizetion in time of Yom. acording to this article science can be used to find some meaning of things in the torah. sagiv levi summerize:
one of the hardest thing to understund is the timing in the creation.
In the creation Yom is not really mean a day because there was no sun or light in the first three days.
another example is when God said and it will evening and it will be morning it is really not like morning and evening like we know it; it is really like the defenition of the word evening which is cheos and morning which is order.
the diffrent of science and the torah in this article:
this article is mostly based on science like using the defenition of the words evening and morning, or the orgenizetion in time of Yom.
acording to this article science can be used to find some meaning of things in the torah.

sagiv levi

]]> Comment on Bareishit: Creation – The Scientific approach. by Ben http://www.torahtruth.org/2008/10/bareishit-creation-the-scientific-approach/comment-page-1/#comment-887 Ben Thu, 28 Oct 2010 15:50:55 +0000 http://www.torahtruth.org/?p=369#comment-887 First I’ll answer using only minimum knowledge of modern physics. The laws of physics apply to the nature around us as we observe it in the present moment. These laws are true and verifiable over our limited time of human existence narrowed down even more by the history of science. But ask yourself this question: do they apply to the … “nature” before the Big Bang? You probably realize that question is even not valid because … what “nature” are you talking about? That “nature” which we observe, which we are part of and which we research in science did not exist before Big Bang, no laws of thermodynamics, not even energy, there was no object to be observed, neither subject to do observation … your question about 1st law of thermodynamics cannot be even applied “there” as there is nothing there yet not even energy in any form (scripture’s wording says “tohu v’avohu” which is translated as “unformed and void”)… In fact even Einstein’s relativity theory cannot be applied as there are no object or subjects. What was before the Big Bang? You can run your imagination to it’s limits but you will not come up with anything better than: “the earth was not formed and void” (Genesis, 1:2) Only after the moment of Big Bang we may encounter any form of energy, the first form we know is the photon (or light), as in “And God said: ‘Let there be light.’ And there was light.” (Genesis, 1:3) All other forms of matter such as water or solids (“firmament” as usually translated in Genesis) are all different forms of energy as discovered by modern physics. Another approach to the scientific understanding of what was before Big Bang comes from quantum mechanics who use the theory of “Zero Point Field” to explain that dimension of our current reality where laws of physics can not be applied. This theory was developed by quantum field physicists trying to explain the phenomena in our world when unstable particles and other forms of energy appear and disappear apparently from and to … nothingness . The other term for this is a “vacuum state” or as a state containing “zero energy”. This “nothingness”, from where particles pop into and out of existence (read wikipedia about this theory), called "zero energy" or a "vacuum state", - is kind of “scientific” term … for the Creator :=) First I’ll answer using only minimum knowledge of modern physics.
The laws of physics apply to the nature around us as we observe it in the present moment. These laws are true and verifiable over our limited time of human existence narrowed down even more by the history of science. But ask yourself this question: do they apply to the … “nature” before the Big Bang?
You probably realize that question is even not valid because … what “nature” are you talking about? That “nature” which we observe, which we are part of and which we research in science did not exist before Big Bang, no laws of thermodynamics, not even energy, there was no object to be observed, neither subject to do observation … your question about 1st law of thermodynamics cannot be even applied “there” as there is nothing there yet not even energy in any form (scripture’s wording says “tohu v’avohu” which is translated as “unformed and void”)… In fact even Einstein’s relativity theory cannot be applied as there are no object or subjects. What was before the Big Bang? You can run your imagination to it’s limits but you will not come up with anything better than:
“the earth was not formed and void” (Genesis, 1:2)
Only after the moment of Big Bang we may encounter any form of energy, the first form we know is the photon (or light), as in
“And God said: ‘Let there be light.’ And there was light.” (Genesis, 1:3)
All other forms of matter such as water or solids (“firmament” as usually translated in Genesis) are all different forms of energy as discovered by modern physics.
Another approach to the scientific understanding of what was before Big Bang comes from quantum mechanics who use the theory of “Zero Point Field” to explain that dimension of our current reality where laws of physics can not be applied. This theory was developed by quantum field physicists trying to explain the phenomena in our world when unstable particles and other forms of energy appear and disappear apparently from and to … nothingness . The other term for this is a “vacuum state” or as a state containing “zero energy”. This “nothingness”, from where particles pop into and out of existence (read wikipedia about this theory), called “zero energy” or a “vacuum state”, – is kind of “scientific” term … for the Creator :=)

]]> Comment on Bareishit: Creation – The Scientific approach. by Jake http://www.torahtruth.org/2008/10/bareishit-creation-the-scientific-approach/comment-page-1/#comment-885 Jake Thu, 28 Oct 2010 04:00:02 +0000 http://www.torahtruth.org/?p=369#comment-885 If the first law of thermodynamics states that energy can niether be created nor destroyed. How does it support the idea behind there being a God? If the first law of thermodynamics states that energy can niether be created nor destroyed. How does it support the idea behind there being a God?

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